2008年8月1日 星期五

鎖國??

自從馬先生就任之後, 比爾王一方面不斷的在觀察他是否能兌現他競選時所提出的政見及支票, 二方面觀察他施政的效率, 反應與態度, 三方面則是比爾王最擔心的與中國的關係, 因為他在競選時一場燒成灰都是台灣人的談話, 讓我著實感動不已, 所以一定也要來驗證他到底是說真的還是說假的! 結果, 當然令我感到失望囉! 國防, 外交, 政治, 經濟等總統該負責的事, 沒有一件令我放心跟滿意的. 因為有太多主題可以說, 那今天我就來說說鎖國好了, 因為從民進黨執政以來, 最為藍軍詬病的就是把阿輝伯的戒急用忍與對中國投資限制的把關, 並將其視為鎖國政策



我們先來看看
鎖國政策在維基百科是如何被定義的





定義
:關門自守, 不與外界接觸的一種外交政策

原因:1. 基於保障傳統文化 

        2.
保障本國經濟, 避免外來力量影響 

        3.
國防安全的考量 

影響:減少於外界接觸的機會, 以及減少國際衝突.



再來個圖解鎖國好了,
所謂出不去也進不來, 是謂鎖國! Sorry, 比爾王只會用小畫家, 也只有小畫家能用, 請多包涵!






如果從圖來看
, 我們並沒有鎖國啊! , 現在清楚了鎖國的文字與圖案定義, 我們就來看看, 到底戒急用忍算不算鎖國?



我們不能否認的是
, 從民國60年代起的台灣經濟起飛是由國民黨的孫運璿先生所領銜主演的, 當時, 有許多中小企業主, 帶著一只皮箱, 即使不會說英語也全球到處飛, 一方面找原料供應商, 另一方面也同時開發國外買家, 於是創造了當時台灣經濟的榮景. 讓我們看看經濟部所公佈的資料, 2000年到2007年民進黨執政時期對中國的出口貿易數據, 以及投資狀況



1是從2000年到2007, 8年來台灣對中國的進出口貿易, 每年均呈現2位數的成長, 啊這樣叫鎖國

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2是各國在中國的投資狀況, 不好意思, 經濟部網站只提供20052006年的資料, 但光這2年台灣都分別位居中國投資排行榜的第六名與第七名, 而且當中我相信, 有很多是國內企業為了逃避查緝, 透過第三地如維京群島或開曼群島所做的轉投資, 啊這樣叫鎖國?

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3是過去8年台灣對日本, 美國及中國的進出口貿易總值及入出超狀況, 我們不難看出台灣對中, 港的貿易出超不只遠大於對美國的, 甚至是數倍於美國, 且呈現倍數的成長, 這還不包括國內企業經第三地的轉投資喔! 我們馬先生竟然還要放寬國內企業投資中國上限, 40%增加到60%, 且還要開放12”晶圓廠到中國投資. 我們已經清吃都不夠了, 還要曬干! 啊這樣叫鎖國?

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以上資料都是從
經濟部國貿局的公開資料查詢所得, 只有做一些格式與整理的編排, 完全可受公評, 歡迎自行查詢.



由此可見
, 台灣不只沒有鎖國, 更幾乎是呈現開放的局面! 當然啦! 如果一定要像國民黨和馬先生的定義的話, 我們是只對中國鎖而已, 但數據卻又告訴我們並沒有對中國鎖, 所以到底是誰說謊咧? 好了, 言盡於此, 只希望所有國民不分藍綠, 都能好好思考國內經濟是否真的只能靠綁住中國, 才得以存活? 剩下的就下次再談吧.

 


11 則留言:

  1. supertony671/8/08 15:04

    戳破國民黨的鎖國謊言,

    指需要一個大圈圈加上八個箭頭...

    用小畫家綽綽有餘了拉~



    這麼荒謬的指責、

    這麼離譜的謊言、

    這麼清楚的數據...

    還是友人聽不進、看不見ㄚ~



    感謝版主的分享,並對板主對釐清真相的用心表達支持之意~ ^0^

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  2. Hey Dude,



    Just tell me what happened to Taiwan econimic in the past 8 years? There

    must be something wrong with the policy or strategy, right? Just give them

    some time or credit to execute their " Words". If they were still sucks,

    you can pcik someone else later, right?



    By the way, I didn't hear you complaining the ex-goverment in past few

    years, did they do well??? You know the answer for sure! Anyway, just take

    easy and enjoy your life.



    Jasper

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  3. hi dude,



    I also complained about some poor performance of ex-government. You can see my

    article "從業務的角度看民進黨的敗選" But I finded some evidence proved that KMT and media

    lied us that DPP was not that bad as they said in the past.



    The most important is KMT too close to China. You have Taiwan TV so you can find all

    policy is rely on China(travel, the open up of electronic like 12" semicon, national

    defence...) For economy, the price increase of petroleum several times. He also

    increased water, electric, gas, fertilizer... It came with serious inflation.



    We are different polictical tendency. But I am not that abusive man. I need to monitor

    his policy expecially I don't want to reunite with China. Please respact my right to

    deliver my political view point and what evidence I got.



    Anyway, I will keep writing it in my blog. Please just ignore if you don't like them. I

    will also post other articles. Wish you still like to visit my blog. ha ha...



    Regards,

    Bill

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  4. Hey Dude,



    You misunderstand my last mail, I mean that you never complained to us

    about the ex-goverment when they are still on duty. You just judge them

    after they losing the election. By the way, I totally respect your right

    for the " political issue ", and I don't want to persuade you anything.

    Just share the other point I got.



    For the economic subject, I have some questions for you. Have you every

    study the difference between Taiwan and other countries( Korea, Japan or

    US). For example, some American people said that they won't buy the

    products from China, but can they? NO, it's the worldwide economic

    environment, you can not stop it, right? Hey, not only Taiwan increasing

    the living cost, every country was impacted by the high gas price as well.

    In US, gas station change the gasline price " EVERYDAY", why so many

    Taiwanese complained the frequency of price change.

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  5. 爲了適當的表達,我想我用華文比較好啦!呵呵...先說好,我只是描述這段時間的過程,不是批評喔!



    第一,我不是說油電水不能漲,只是要多考慮一下手法.他一開始"預告"說1/6要漲,結果導致總共40多家加油站囤

    油,老百姓加不到油,結果一看情勢不對,就突然把漲價的日期提前到28/5,讓老百姓措手不及.肥料也是這樣操作.



    第二,我當然知道國際上的物價,每個國家都在漲,但這和一開始他們宣稱的經濟政策是不同的!另外,你知道嗎?你舉

    的3個國家,通通都是透過退稅來刺激國內經濟,另外還包括新加坡,香港跟澳門!專家學者也建議,用退稅的方式,可

    以直接幫助老百姓,進而刺激消費,又可避免因為擴大內需所造成的通貨膨脹,更可以進一步避免造成政府公共工程

    與百姓搶原料的尷尬現象,但他抵死不願退稅!而且他的擴大內需,竟然有很多縣市是用來改建或增建殯儀館的,你知

    道嗎?



    第三,我從網路上得知

    (http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/wrgp/mogas_home_page.html)美

    國最近幾週已經因為原油的降價,加油站的油價也已經降了3,4次了,這個部分就要請你查證一下了,看看你家附近的

    加油站最近是否真的降價了?我相信美國的政府網站是不會說謊的啦!



    至於你說的不買中國貨,當然不太可能!但卻已經在全世界慢慢形成一股風氣.我不敢說有多少人拒買啦,但其碼我跟

    Timothy就已經開始不買了,因為我們在大賣場買東西的兩個條件,第一是要便宜,第二是要非中國貨,因為有一天他

    在我車上看到我剛買的台鹽牙膏,他就說他也是因為不想買到中國黑心貨,才改買台鹽的.



    說真的啦,我原本的想法也是就讓他做做看,因為他是透過民主的方式選上的,本來就應該尊重.但他自上任後,國內

    民眾與媒體,中資以及親國民黨的媒體(我不用泛藍,因為那太挑釁了),甚至連國民黨自己的民意代表,都已經開始對

    馬先生的政策批判不以,他的民調滿意度,光透過TVBS做的都已經從當選時的72%掉到剩下不到30%,這可不是我一個

    人說了算喔!這些都還只是經濟政策而以喔,國防與外交才是我最擔心的ㄝ!因為今天你問的是經濟,所以就單純一

    點,不然國防與外交的問題,才真的是令人感到擔心呢!

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  6. Yo Man,



    Tax-Return, I just can share the US experience, because I also get this

    benefit this time. For Asia people, we will take the extra money for

    saving, but Americans will spend it right away. The consumer behavior and

    economic habit for American and Taiwanese are totally different, so Taiwan

    may not apply the same policy. I don't know which one is good for Taiwan (

    tax-return or increase internal development), but I think tax-return will

    be not helpful for Tiawan economic. Ask yourself the question, what will

    you do if you get the tax returned??? save it, right?? ha ha ha..

    As for gas price, all station change the unit price everyday, of course

    they will lower down their price by worldwide Oil price. Can Taiwanese

    accept the gasline price be adjusted( higher or lower) everyday? If no,

    please shut up. Please do not just ask goverment using same policy as

    other country, but the people never treated us like other country did.



    Jasper

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  7. Hey man,



    Due to the words limited, so I need to post my words separately. I just

    care about the economic issue, so let's discuss it only. And it will be

    also impacted me if we move back to Taiwan in next couple years, right?

    And Taiwan is my country, so I wish it can be strong and aggressive.



    If your country were strong enough, the rest countries of the world will

    respect you and give you a lot of space to join any kind of international

    orgnization. I won't say that, but I do observe that happened to

    Taiwanese. DO NOT judge or criticize everything by " Island View", think

    big and do big. As we discussed many times, do not judge anybody if you

    don't have the same experience. I never thought my " view " was so narrow

    until moving to US, it's really difficult to explain. But you can tell the

    difference if you have chance to live somewhere away Taiwan.



    Jasper

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  8. By the way,



    We still have lots of topic can talk like my bike trip article to Keelung. Did you see

    that funny place name on the bus station? Now my plan/schdule is almost done these 2

    days. It will be scheduled from 30 Aug. to 5 Sept(or 6 Sept). I will post it these few

    days to share with you and others. Please give me some suggestion if you have any idea

    loh!!



    Regards,

    Bill

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  9. Hey Bro,



    Did you really understand what am I talking about? I didn't ask you to "

    Shut up". I said that if those guys can not accept the price adjusted

    everyday(either higher or lower), then keep quiet. Because they can not

    just foucs on the part they like. Hey, please re-read my words again.

    Sigh! Sigh! What time period do you expect, adjusting everyday or once a

    week. The frequency( weekly) can really react the oil price, right?



    I think I should write Chinese in the future, otherwise you always

    misunderstand what am I talking about. Taiwan is a country was not a "

    Island View". I said that we have to judge the " ECONOMIC ISSUE" by "

    WORLDWIDE VIEW". Not just stand in Taiwan, then tell everybody how the

    world working, right? To cooperate with other country is the most

    important to " Improve" our own economic environment, right? No matter

    what countries they are.



    Jasper

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  10. Hey man,



    Too many people judge and criticize policy by " COLOR", it's not correct.

    Let's discuss the topic by different " view" or " experience".



    Last question, are you afraid of China? How come you concern any policy

    related to China? Or you just concern the history connection between

    Taiwan and China. Don't forget that I am also a Taiwanese, both my parents

    are Taiwanese too. Racial problem should be stopped in our generation, do

    you agree? Or we should STOP discussing this topic anymore. ha ha ha



    Jasper

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  11. Hi dude,



    I am not sure the misunderstanding was because of my poor english or other

    reasons. ha ha ha...



    Actually I am not affraid of China. I just don't want to be part of China

    and don't want to have any connection with China because they are bad

    country. It doesn't matter with the history.



    I think my concern is because of the political people's behavior and their

    policy. It will not be the issue if they didn't that close to China. I

    will be friendly to China if China does the same as well. The racial

    problem is not problem to me. Most people still deny to say they are

    Taiwaness. That's the problem-nation identification.



    As I said that I am not that kind of "color" man. I just extremely

    emphasize that we are absolutly an independent country. We have right to

    attend/join any group or international organization without oppression.

    Just that simple.



    Regard,

    Bill

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